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Did Scott Boras Get Schooled This Offseason?

Prior to the Cody Bellinger signing with the Cubs, we were heading into the final week of February, with all teams playing at least one Spring Training game.  The top 5 remaining free agents at that time were all Scott Boras clients:

  • Cody Bellinger
  • Blake Snell
  • Jordan Montgomery
  • Matt Chapman
  • JD Martinez

The Dodgers, Phillies, Braves, and Cardinals jumped out the gate with multiple moves.  The Phillies set the bar for 30+ year old elite pitchers, signing their own FA RHP, Aaron Nola, to a 7 year $172MM contract on 11/19/2023.

The Braves did not make noise with signing elite free agents, but they did take on bad contracts to be able to trade for desirable players.

  • Jarred Kelenic
  • Chris Sale
  • Aaron Bummer
  • David Fletcher – NRI expected to make team

Although, Atlanta did sign Reynaldo López on FA contract, and Luis Guillorme.

St. Louis immediately jumped on Kyle Gibson (11/21/2023), Lance Lynn (11/21/2023), and Sonny Gray (11/27/2023).

But the Dodgers broke the standard by signing Shohei Ohtani and Yoshi Yamamoto, and committing to more than $1 Billion in salaries.  Scott Boras was giddy.  He could see the $$$$ mount. If Ohtani is worth $700MM, then Belli has to be worth north of $250MM.  If a pitcher who has never pitched a MLB game gets a record $325MM contract, just how much is 2-time CY winner Blake Snell and WS Champion, Jordan Montgomery worth?

Earlier last week, some baseball journalists were pontificating which of the top four free agents would entertain a short term contract.  It was opined that Snell (31), Montgomery (31), and Chapman (31) had already passed the age to take short term deals, and were looking for that one last big deal.  OTOH, Bellinger is playing at baseball age 28, and should be able to get another bite at the apple with a short term contract this year.

Thus, Bellinger broke the stalemate, but it sure was not close to that $250MM+ contract Boras was pushing.  $80MM for 3 years is a tad south of $27MM per year.   It is a good AAV, but teams are not going to go 9 figures and long term for a questionable Cody Bellinger.

Why are teams so sheepish on giving Belli that long term deal?  Teams are still unsure about who the real Belli is.  Here is Belli’s 2023 statcast.  Focus in on:

  • Average Exit Velocity
  • Barrel %
  • Hard Hit %

Cody Bellinger 2023 Statcast

 

Now look at who Cody Bellinger was in 2022.

Cody Bellinger 2022 Statcast

 

Teams are apparently concerned that with Bellinger’s poor output in the hard hit and barrel categories in 2023, whether he can sustain the progress he made last year or revert back to 2022.  They are paying him short term based on what he did last year, but neither the Cubs nor any other team were willing to commit to a $250MM deal over the long term.

Bellinger can opt out after both years.  Will he?  He does like playing in Chicago.  However, next year’s free agent class is not particularly good.

While Blake Snell is a 2-time CY winner, for his other years he did not get a vote.  While he had a wonderful year in 2023, he also led MLB in walks.  The Yankees made an offer of 6 years for $150MM, showing optimism that he might be able to pitch at the elite level over that span, but not enough to give him near what was believed to be Boras’ asking price.  – 9 years and $270MM.  Sure, that is asking, but teams looking to sign Boras clients are very few to begin with, and with LAD and ATL not looking to sign Boras clients on long term deals, that really limits the number of teams in on the bidding.  And this year, with the expected reduced local TV revenues, those teams might be willing to pay for Ohtani and Yamamoto, but not 31 year old pitchers with limited control and two years of excellent pitching.

Jordan Montgomery was believed to want to return to Texas, but right now, that is not going to happen.  He is willing to go back to NYY but NYY was not as inviting.  St. Louis had already made their starting rotation additions.  Philadelphia resigned Aaron Nola, and has a very good rotation.  NYM is not willing to spend on a 31 year old pitcher for long term and Carlos Rodón $$$.  Montgomery’s wife is working her residency in a Boston hospital, and many thought that Boston was the logical landing spot.  Unfortunately, this is the year that Boston is trying to be “financially responsible and sustainable.”  Should he expect to get the same deal as Aaron Nola?  Same baseball age. Same overall career.  Both workhorses.  Except Nola is a strikeout pitcher and Montgomery is a control soft contact pitcher.  To offset that, Monty is left handed which is a premium teams are willing to pay for.

Boston would like to sign Monty, but not until his price comes down significantly.  Could Boras been able to get Monty signed early?  Would St. Louis have been willing to pay a premium for Montgomery before they signed Gray, Gibson, and Lynn?  Could he have made a deal with Texas taking into consideration the short term cash flow concerns because of the local TV revenues?  Texas is very concerned about their short term csh flow because they are not going to get their revenue from a bankrupt Diamond Sports Group.  The Rangers will be working on a new TV deal, and with a WS Championship, that could have been a significant consideration.  But it is not done, and the owners are trying to be financially responsible, with a payroll already over the CBT tier 1.

. Matt Chapman?  I do believe he has been hampered by the Qualifying Offer more than any of the other free agents.  Chapman is a game changer with the glove, but not necessarily with the bat.  Teams are not willing to overpay for the glove AND lose a draft pick (or two).  San Francisco, Chicago Cubs, Seattle, Arizona, and Toronto were the most likely pursuers for Chapman.  San Francisco values defense, and Manager Bob Melvin was Chapman’s manager in Oakland.  Arizona already addressed 3B with their trade for Eugenio Suarez.  Seattle said they are out of the Chapman negotiations unless the price really drops.  Chicago just signed Bellinger.  For whatever reason, Toronto is not overwhelmed with the idea of Chapman returning to them.  They thought that Chapman could be the missing piece on a championship team, but he was not.  It was not Chapman’s fault of course, but he did not help either.

I still think that Chapman will sign with SF, but nowhere near where Boras believed he should be.  You might also wonder after JDM saying he did not want to play in SF, how would that impact Chapman.  I take that not because of the City, but Oracle Park being a terrible hitting stadium.  It just sucks the power out of players.  Barry Bonds does not count.  He could hit them out of the Grand Canyon.

JDM – How many teams want a fulltime DH?  Arizona went out of their way letting everyone know they wanted to sign a fulltime DH.  Most figured it would be JDM because of how he hit there in 2017.  Instead, Arizona went with Joc Pederson for a one-year, $12.5MM guarantee. Joc will receive a $9.5MM salary next season and is due a $3MM buyout on a 2025 mutual option valued at $14MM.  Would JDM have accepted that?  Would Arizona been willing to offer it?  Perhaps, Boras has waited too long to get JDM signed.  Toronto sign Justin Turner to be their primary DH.  SF signed Jorge Soler to be their primary DH.  Dodgers?  They have a DH in the name of Shohei Ohtani.  His options are…LAA, NYM,???

Boras definitely missed the market for Belli, and probably has for Snell, Montgomery, and JDM.  But Boras has been used to pulling off the impossible in the past, so with Boras, never say never.

Cue the collusion charges by Boras after the free agents are signed.

 

 

 

Jeff Dominique

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Fred Vogel

What is the difference between barrel and sweet spot?

Keith

I’m usually all for players getting their money, but I have no problem seeing Boras screw this up royally. I don’t believe a single one of these guys is going to get close to the contract they were looking for.

I’ve always felt Boras and the Dodgers don’t have that great of a relationship, he uses the Dodgers to drive up prices, then signs his clients with another team. I wasn’t
too impressed with his comments last season, about the Dodgers not handling Bellinger right. Everyone in baseball knows the Dodgers have a top notch medical, and training staff. To top it off, I’ve always thought he had Beltre sign with Seattle so he could get one of his other clients to fill our void, I can’t quite remember who it was, but I remember he was adequate at best, help me out here bear I’m sure you remember who we signed, after Beltre left.

although the Dodgers did get a heck of a deal on JD Martinez last season, but that doesn’t change my opinion of Boras much.

Oldbear48

I think Boras really doesn’t care. He will get his money even though his clients might not get what they want. I am not surprised JD did not want to play in SF full time. His career average at AT&T is .205 with 3 homers and 13 driven in. By contrast, he has hit .315 in Anaheim. If you were going simply by BA, he should sign with Colorado. He has hit .421 at Coors with 7 homers and 22 driven in in 17 games.

Duke Not Snider

Just noticed I wrote my friend was earning about $9,000 per year… Typos happen.. He was earning about $90,000

Dionysus

Boras is bad for baseball and I’m tired of people defending him.

Phil Jones

Sort of a forgettable Spring Game yesterday vs the A’s. Nice win and saw some good things.
Nice to see Outman have a day. His bomb off a LHP was nice to see. He made a nice catch, got another knock, stole a base and took 3rd on the same pitch that was wild. Nice hustle. I like the kid.
Phillips looked like always, great, as did Brasier who stuck out the side. Vesia was effective but not crisp. He’s always a slow starter. Our pitching depth is pretty amazing giving up 5 hits all day.
Freddie showed a little limp after his fly out to left. He was immediately replaced defensively. I hope it was just my imagination. I think he’s schedule to play today so we’ll see.
Muncy had a typical day. Took a called strike 3 with 2 on and followed that up the next AB with a 2 run homer (off a LHP). Max being Max.
Vargas looked terrible at the plate. He looks like he’s swing under water. Long swing sort of feeling for the ball. He has some work to do to shorten that stroke with some bat speed.
No Show-hei again but I hear he will DH tomorrow, which is fine with me as I have tickets. Me nice to see his first appearance
I swear 2 out of every 3 jerseys and Dodger tops worn at Camelback are Ohtani. They are everywhere. Name paying off already.

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Oldbear48

Happy Birthday to Preacher Roe. Roe would be 108 today if he was alive. Born in 1916.

Zeke

The Dodgers have traded outfielder Manuel Margot to the Twins, reports Juan Toribio of MLB.com. Had a feeling he wasn’t going to last long with us. Wonder if this means they are still thinking about resigning Kike?

Last edited 1 year ago by Zeke
Oldbear48

According to Jeff Passan, Kike is nearing a one year deal with the Dodgers.

Watford Dodger

Good to see Kike back.

Ryan Yarbrough is very underrated. He will be a
very valuable player this season and it was folly to leave him off NL Div Roster when we were so short of pitching.

Austin Barnes should not be our back up Catcher and has no place hitting Clean Up in this stacked Dodgers lineup.
He cannot hit and he can’t throw anyone out. Ever.
The guff about him being Kershaw’s preferred receiver no longer has any relevance either.
Fedducia is a total unknown and no one else is ready.
Better hope for no Concussions or other mishaps to Will.
Gonna drive me nuts watching Barnes every 5 days or Getaway days.

Scott Andes

Is there anyone more despicable than Scott Boras and his monopoly on free agency?

Oldbear48

Boras is who he is. You can’t blame the guy for playing by the rules. That being said, you cannot blame GM’s and execs who refuse to bargain with him. He has used the Dodgers in the past to drive up his clients’ prices. He obviously did it with Zack Greinke. He does not have the most clients, but he does have some of the more expensive. I wonder with Bellinger if Cody did not push that deal. You look at the remaining A-list free agents and you have to know, none of them are going to get what Boras was originally asking.

Bobby

Ohtani will be batting 2nd this year.

Bluto

Just watching the game through Twitter/X lists, Grove didn’t seem to get into a groove.
Ohtani did.
👀 Blake Treinen’s first time on the Major League mound since 2022 starts with a pitch clock violation

Last edited 1 year ago by Bluto
Bluto

From what I’ve read the ONLY 40 man players, aside from Yamamoto and Kike, who are yet to appear in a game are:

Paxton
Sheehan (soreness)
Graterol (soreness)
Kelly
Feyereisen 
Cartaya

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