Many years ago, when I was living in Highland Park, in a home for children, we had what we called a house father there who loved baseball.
His name was Mr. Howell. He was from Connecticut, and he was a huge baseball fan, especially of the Dodgers. His favorite Dodger? Dolph Camilli and Pee Wee Reese. But what I truly loved to listen too was when he would talk about some of the greats, he had seen play.
He missed Ruth but saw Gehrig a couple of times. He loved watching Joe DiMaggio. Seems his dad liked to go to several Yankee games every year, and he would occasionally take his sons to Ebbets Field to see the Dodgers.
He also had a lot of praise for the Tigers Hank Greenberg. He saw guys like Lefty Gomez, Van Lingle Mungo, Red Ruffing, and Spud Chandler pitch. Until Campy came along, he felt the best catcher he had seen was Bill Dickey. But being a true Dodger fan, he switched once Campanella established himself as one of the greats.
He would go to Vero several times and had photos of many of the players. Seeing a photo of a very young Pee Wee Reese in those baggy uniforms alongside Dolph Camilli was a great thing to see.
But when I asked him who the best he ever saw was, he did not even hesitate. DiMaggio. And the reason was simple. Joe D could do it all. Run, hit, field, hit for average and power. He was most impressed by the fact that he had never seen DiMaggio make a mistake in the field. I had read somewhere that someone had said the same thing about Ruth.
I believe his love of the game got him through one of the toughest times of his life. He and his wife lost their son, Aubrey when he was killed on Okinawa in the last months of WWII.
It got me to thinking about all of the baseball I have seen over the last six decades. Who is the best I ever saw? Well, you see great players every day of the week now on MLB.TV. Plus, you see slo-mo replays of their best plays.
So, I have thought about it, and I will stick to a player or players I have actually been at the ballpark to see. For me, the choice is easy too. Willie Mays. He was as graceful as they come. He could run like the wind, and his cap was consistently flying off of his head when he ran. Remember, this was before batting helmets were mandatory.
Willie had a great arm and could make the hardest of catches look easy. There was a certain flair to the way he played the game. Even when he was beating your team, you had to admire the guy’s talent and love of the game.
The first time I heard Vin Scully interview Mays, I was stunned and thought he was interviewing the wrong guy. Willie had such a high-pitched squeaky voice. But his play on the field was always top-notch. It was hard for me to watch him in his last year with the Mets.
I have seen many greats play. Willie Stargell impressed me a lot. First, he was super nice to the fans, even the opposition. I went to a game at Dodger Stadium and before the game he autographed a ball for me despite me wearing my Dodger gear. I just respected the man’s talent. That night off of Alan Foster, he hit a ball over the right field pavilion roof. One of two he would hit in his career. The second one came off of Andy Messersmith.
Hank Aaron never seemed to hit long majestic home runs. Hank would hit these line drives that never seemed to climb very high, but they would go into the seats anyway. He was also an excellent fielder.
I never saw Griffey Jr. play in person, but he was on the highlight reel almost every night. I would put him, Mays and Andruw Jones as maybe the best defensive CF’s I have seen. I did not see Duke or Mickey play as often as I saw those guys.
You can go to every era of the game and find so many great players. For years I thought Brooks Robinson was the best third baseman I had ever seen. But Greg Nettles looked a lot like him in a World Series against the Dodgers. It seemed like they could not get a ball past the guy.
I look at Arenado the same way, and although I really cannot stand the guy, Machado is a top notch third baseman too. LA has had some good players at third, Cey was the longest tenured. But in my lifetime, they have not had a defender there as good as those two.
Ozzie Smith was in my mind, the best defensive SS I have ever seen. There are some excellent ones now, but Ozzie had that little something extra and made plays that made you say, what just happened. Made himself into a decent hitter after he joined the Cardinals.
I saw Roberto Clemente play maybe four times in person. And in every one of those games, he made a great play or throw. I remember watching the Pirates take fielding practice, and he would show off that cannon arm of his. Puig had that type of arm, so did Raul Mondesi. The Dodgers have been blessed with three RF’s who could throw accurately to any base. Furillo was the other. Mookie is pretty good out there too, but he is an infielder now.
The meanest pitchers I have ever seen, Big D, Bob Gibson, Randy Johnson. Anyone of them would probably throw at their mom’s if they were hitting. There might be a couple more, but it is hard to remember them all. I do remember how competitive Juan Marichal was, and I also remember how hated he was by Dodger fans.
When you talk about catchers, it seems Bench is at the top of everyone’s list. Johnny Bench was a great catcher. He caught over 1700 games. But he moved to third and first later in his career. My choice would be Ivan Rodriguez and Yadier Molina. Two of the best, maybe not with a power bat, but as defenders, they were A-1.
Three injury prone seasons derailed Campy’s career. 3 MVPs, and the all-time highest career caught stealing percentage, 57.4, label him as one of the greatest. The most HRs as a catcher title belongs to Mike Piazza. Mike had 399, 39 more than Carlton Fisk, and 43 more than Bench.
But as usual, it comes down to personal preference. Willie will always be to me, the best all-around player I have ever watched on a baseball field. There is probably a player out there somewhere who could be that good, but so far, he hasn’t shown up.
Born June 14th, 1948, in Los Angeles California. AKA The Bear
We’ve talked about this before. The best baseball player I ever saw was Willie Mays. 5 tools, all equal or better than anyone.
Best performance by a Dodger? Easy. Sandy Koufax 1965-1966. 53 wins, 17 losses, 658 innings of sub 2 ERA. Just let that sink in for a minute.
“Friedman and Gomes know Sasaki is as fragile as he is gifted, and their team is now tasked with developing him without breaking him.” This morning’s Times.
Gulp.
He’s like fine China. You don’t let the kids play catch with it in the front yard, you handle it very carefully once in a while then gently put it back on the shelf.
And the Dodgers are asked “to develop without breaking”? Really? How’s their track record on that working out?
“I’ve had numerous injuries in Japan”. Roki Sasaki
I got the under on 111 innings (what he threw last year). And, I’ve got under 150 innings for everyone else on this staff. I think the Dodgers are loading up for September and October and to get their healthy they will employ never before seen load management of the entire staff.
I think it is not possible or it would not be fair to say who was or has been the best player, because baseball has changed a lot, you cannot compare Koufak with Kershaw, because they did not play at the same time or against the same teams or in the same stadiums or with the same managers or the same teammates and well, I think you already understood my point.
Would Babe Ruth have been the great hitter he was in his time if he were playing today?
My idea is that maybe one “could” compare players every 10 years, who was the best batter from 1971 to 1980? from 1981 to 1990? from 2001 to 2010? and so on, the same with pitchers.
Would Fernando have had the same numbers he achieved in 81, if he were to play today? Definitely not!
And an apology, I think that was not the topic of this day, but I just wanted to comment on it.
Something similar is when I keep reading that the Dodgers should have won in 2017 if it weren’t for the cheating Houston Astros.
That World Series could have been played against the Yankees, had it not been for Altuve’s homerun.
I knew a Mr Howell once. Rich fella.
This is a topic that I wanted to bring up a number of times. Who have been your favorite non-Dodgers. That mostly entails elite players. Non Giant fans are not going to name Hal Lanier as a best or favorite.
I go back to the early 60’s for my favorite non-Dodgers who were elite. I had/have memorabilia for both Brooks Robinson and Roberto Clemente. I have always loved defense. Of course there have been great defensive 3B, but Brooks had 16 GG, more than any other position player in MLB history. I saw Brooks live twice in 1966 World Series. His play in the 1966 and 1970 WS were some of the best WS defense I ever saw. Graig Nettles was also great against the Dodgers in 1978.
I saw Clemente live a lot. His throws from the RF corner are incomparable. I know there have been a lot of great RF, but Clemente is the best I ever saw. And yes I include Henry Aaron in that group.
I think the discussions on Mays v Mantle will go on forever. I saw Mays live a lot, but Mantle only twice in the 1963 World Series. I did not get to see the best of Mantle. In June of 1963, Mantle fractured a bone in his left foot and suffered ligament and cartilage damage to the left knee running into the chain link fence chasing down a Brooks Robinson drive. Mays OTOH was the best overall MLB player I ever saw in the 60’s, 70’s, and 80’s.
But the CF I saw the most, and is my favorite CF is Ken Griffey Jr. He was a string bean that was hurt all the time, and yet still clubbed 630 career HRs. Better HR percentage than Mays. I did not get to see Mays or Mantle in their best years. But I did see Junior in his best years. We have family in Seattle, who were not baseball fans. But they always got me tickets for Seattle games so I could see Junior. I always made sure I made it to Dodger Stadium for games against Cincinnati when he was with the Reds.
I saw Randy Johnson play multiple times at USC. I also saw him a lot in Arizona. My company had season tickets at Bank One Ball Park when they first opened. I made sure I made my trips to Phoenix when the Dodgers played, and multiple times throughout the year. My boss laughed and asked why I was taking so many trips to Phoenix in 1999, Johnson’s first year with Arizona, and as it turned out, my last baseball season with that company.
My favorite non-LAD pitcher of all time was/is Nolan Ryan. I saw him pitch live on a couple of games. I have multiple pictures on my wall of Ryan. I have a picture of his fight with Robin Ventura and with him on the mound with blood on his jersey.
The best overall player I saw play was Barry Bonds. When I moved up to the Bay area in 2000, my boss had season tickets to the Giants games. Even though he was a huge LAD fan, he gave me his tickets for all of the Dodgers games. I was at Pac Bell on the October 5-7 series with LAD. Bonds hit his 72nd HR off Chan Ho Park on October 5, and he hit his 73rd HR off Dennis Springer in the 1st inning of the October 7 game. I wore my LAD jerseys proudly those games, but I was excited to see MLB history.
The best athlete I ever saw was Bo Jackson
One of my other favorite non-LAD pitchers of all time was Lefty, Steve Carlton, when he was with the Phillies. Beginning in 1972, I made sure I was at Dodger Stadium every game he pitched.
Jim Palmer, Ozzie Smith, Chipper Jones, Jim Rice, all HOF. And two other Boston OF, Dewey Evans and Fred Lynn. I saw Lynn at lot at USC, and I saw Evans as a high schooler with Chatsworth HS. I saw Bo Jackson hit a monster HR in KC in 1988. I loved watching Curt Schilling pitch. And finally, one of my Monroe school mates, Doug DeCinces taking over for my favorite Brooks Robinson in 1977.
Bad news dodgerram, it looks like Luis Robert Jr is headed to the Reds.
Dodgers announced their non-roster invitees. Pitchers, Sam Carlson, Carlos Duran, Julian Fernandez, Jackson Ferris, Giovanni Gallegos, Jose Hernandez, Justin Jarvis, Jared Karros, Jack Little, Jose Rodriguez, Roki Sasaki, Matt Sauer. C: Griffing Lockwood-Powell, Dalton Rushing, Chris Okey. INF: David Bote, Alex Freeland, Austin Gauthier, Kody Hoese. OF: Josue De Paula, Justin Dean, Zyhir Hope, Ryan Ward.
Mays and Koufax. Both dominant.
One thing I have noticed over the last several years. If you get an autograph from many players today, you can barely read who signed the thing. My Rick Monday ball is easy to read, even the two minor leaguers who signed it wrote legibly. You know a Babe Ruth ball is real, same for most of the stars in the 50’s and 60’s.
I grew up and live in the midwest. As a young boy we would take the train to Kansas City and watch the Kansas City A’s. I got to see the Yankees and the Red Sox’s. We saw Mantle hit a home run that almost got out of the stadium, at least that is how I remember it. We saw Yaz with Red Sox’s etc. Now I’ve been to most stadiums and seen a lot of great players but the best one might be George Brett with the Royals. He was a man among boys. Ive been able to see Bobby Witt a number of times he might end of as good as Brett.
Best players I got to watch live were:
hitters:
Hank Aaron
chipper Jones
Dale Murphy
pitchers:
Greg Maddox
Tom Glavine
John Smoltz