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The Unofficial Start of the Second Half

In a 162-game schedule, it does not take a mathematician to determine that 81 games mark the halfway mark.  But traditionally, the All-Star Break is the determinant of the end of the first half.  And yet the Dodgers have played 97 games, 16 games passed the actual halfway point.

It used to be that the MLB draft was held early June.  Teams could focus on the upcoming draft before concentrating in earnest about where their team stands for a potential determination of seller or buyer.  There were also less playoff teams allowing for the chasm between the buyers and sellers to widen.

Now the draft is at the same time as the All-Star Break, and the Commissioner’s plan to keep more teams in the playoff hunt is working well this year.  Currently 12 NL teams are within 3.5 games of the final WC spot, and 9 AL teams are within 5.5 games.  The trade deadline is July 30 at 3:00PM PT.  That is less than a 2-week sprint for teams to determine if they are buyers or sellers.

Even with the number of current LAD players on the IL, it is extremely unlikely that the Dodgers will lose a 7.0 game lead in the NL West over the next 65 games. As an aside, where would the Dodgers be without Shohei Ohtani???  The LAD will be a different team with Mookie and Muncy back.  I do not know when Muncy gets back, but hopefully he will have 2-3 weeks to work on his timing.  It is a different Mookie this year, once less reliant on slug and more selective approach at the plate.  And was hitting extremely well WRISP, something he is going to need to remember how to do come October.

So, what do the Dodgers do to help take them over the top, or at least help them to get past the NLDS without embarrassing themselves.  And no I am not one to believe that it falls on luck once you get to the playoffs. When you have a one-dimensional approach and playoff teams can find a way to take the Dodgers out of that approach, the task is easier to defeat them.

For the last two years, the Dodgers have relied on slug first and were not able to generate runs in winnable games.  For the life of me, I cannot understand the thinking that the Dodgers inability to hit WRISP boils down to luck.  Choke up on the bat, hit the ball where pitched, and not try to hit the ball 500 feet. Swing at first strike.  And of the Earl Weaver special, a 3-run HR, happens all the better.  But IMO, without worrying about slug, there was one inning in 2024 that was emblematic of what this team can do.

11th inning – 7-7 tie against SFG:

Free runner on 2B, next seven batters:

  • IBB
  • Double
  • Double
  • Single
  • Single
  • Triple
  • Sacrifice Fly

7 runs later the Dodgers had an overwhelming victory.  The problem??  They shat the bed the next game.  Why such inconsistency?  It is not the talent or lack thereof.  Is it roster construction?  The RVS approach?  Taking on Dave Roberts’ too nice personality? Probably all of the above. But it is not luck that has beaten them.  It is teams taking the Dodgers out of their approach, and the Dodgers inability to find a way once they are out of that approach.

Do the Dodgers need Crochet or Skubal?  Or will a Flaherty or Fedde or Eflin or Kikuchi do?  Crochet and Skubal are more long-term assets that will cost a bundle in prospect capital, and contrary to the thinking of many, something that LAD does not have.  For this exercise, let’s forget about pitching for right now.  Let’s also forget about Kiké, CT3, Heyward, Barnes as players well past their prime and not players who are likely to drive a lot of trade interest.

Lux, Vargas, Outman, Ryan Ward, Drew Avans, Andre Lipcius, Trey Sweeney, Hunter Feduccia, Kody Hoese, Alan Trejo, Chris Owings, Austin Gauthier.  Only the biggest LAD pollyannaish believe any of those will be frontliners for a Crochet or Skubal.  I do believe that Diego Cartaya is showing enough that he can be considered a legit backup to Smith next year.

The LAD #1 prospect, Dalton Rushing, is a legit top 100 prospect and could be a headliner if properly packaged.  The only other AA prospect that might interest teams in 22-year-old SS Alexander Chance Freeland.

The Dodgers prospect capital lies in the unknown A Ball and Rookie Ball and in their pitching:

  • Josue De Paula
  • Thayron Liranzo
  • Kendall George
  • Joendry Vargas
  • Jeral Perez
  • Emil Morales
  • Eduardo Quintero
  • Zyhir Hope
  • Alexander Albertus

These guys are at least 2-5 years away from being impactful at the MLB level.  Only one is a top 100 prospect, and like it or not, that is what drives trade deadline deals.  Dodger fans can hype the prospects all they want, but that is not going to make them more of an interest to a team looking to trade elite talent to jump start their rebuild.

Do the Dodgers want to trade their future?  I suspect they are willing, but probably not as much as some fans want them to be.

With Tyler Glasnow, the Dodgers do not need an Ace.  If they somehow get Yamamoto back, they do not need a #2.  But if he is not back, this is where the Dodgers will look to find a suitable Co #2 with Gavin Stone.  I am not convinced that Bobby Miller nor Walker Buehler will be So while Crochet and Skubal would be great, I do not believe the Dodgers have the prospect capital to get either one…that AF is willing to leverage the future with.

Erick Fedde is a logical target for this role.  Jack Flaherty, if healthy, is a logical target.  Zach Eflin is a soft tossing RH version of Paxton.   I am not as much of a fan of Yusei Kikuchi as others, but he too is a logical target.   There will be others who will pop up, but IMO the Dodgers will not push for Crochet or Skubal.  They may drive the price up, but they will be 2nd or 3rd best in that deal.

Where hope comes into the equation, is that I am sure the Dodgers will be hoping that Landon Knack, River Ryan, James Paxton, or Justin Wrobleski pitch as Brandon Pfaadt did last October as the Dodgers #4. Or are the Dodgers counting on Brent Honeywell being that addition?

The Dodgers have to spend for a Fedde or Flaherty.  Two #4 or #5 pitchers do not help.  Get one of the two.  Eflin or Kikuchi as backup only.

Offensively it does not matter who they target if they choose to continue with their singular approach to slug.  With Mookie, Shohei, Freddie, Smith, Teoscar, Muncy, Pages, and Rojas, they do not need Luis Robert Jr. at that cost.  I like the idea of Randy Arozarena and his playoff bat in the LAD lineup.  They would have to live with Pages defensively in CF.  Is Brent Rooker a legit target?  He certainly fits the slug mold the Dodgers look for.

Or do they believe that the offense when fully intact is lethal enough that they might concentrate on CF defense and look to add Kevin Kiermaier.

Can the Dodgers improve on the bench roles of Kiké, CT3, Vargas???

Now that the traditional first half of the season is complete, and the draft is over, the next two weeks the eyes of the LAD fans will be on AF to see how he plans to attack October.  The rumors will be running high, and it will be near impossible to figure out what AF will be looking to do.

So, what can we expect the cost to be?  KC just acquired a setup reliever, Hunter Harvey, from Washington.  The cost, 22-year-old 3B prospect Cayden Wallace, KC’s #2 prospect, and a competitive balance pick in the 2024 draft (#39 overall).  Washington used the pick to draft well thought of catcher, Caleb Lomavita, from Cal.  That was for a 29-year-old setup reliever with a 4.20 ERA and 1.22 WHIP.

If we are into hoping, let’s simply hope that AF guesses right as to who the best fit for the Dodgers will be for October.

 

 

 

 

Jeff Dominique

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Michael Norris

I agree with those assessments Jeff. I think Dodger fans are dreaming if they think the Dodgers have enough prospect capital to outbid the Orioles, or some other team for Crochet. I totally believe Skubal stays right where he is.

dodgerram

Ragazzo (spelling ?) has a rumor out that the Dodgers working on a trade for Crochet and Robert jun.
https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/1e6rxp9/ragazzo_sources_dodgers_are_heavily_in_on_chicago/?rdt=41317

Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!

Last edited 1 year ago by dodgerram
Dave

Without knowing when Yamamoto returns or how well Kershaw will perform they need to get a #2 starter. The worst that could happen is that Yamamoto and Kershaw come back strong and they end up with an abundance of.pitching. The abundance would be Playoff pitchers.Glasnow, the new #2, Yamamoto and Kershaw with Paxton and Stone in the bullpen.
But they also need another bat either at 3b or outfield. I’m not as worried about the bullpen as others are, especially with the possible return of Kelly.and.Graterol and some starters moving to the pen.

Bumsrap

Since the start of the 20th century, the Dodgers have never won the World Series in any of the 10 seasons in which they won 100 or more games.

I’know willing to include Outman in a trade for Robert.



Oldbear48

Dodgers 2025 schedule is out on the Dodger website. I found it interesting that they play the Cubs 7 times next year. 2 in Tokyo, 3 in LA and 2 more in Chicago. The also play the Angels 5 times next year instead of 4. The Yankees return to LA next season. They finish the year on the road against the D-Backs and then Seattle. The seven games with the Cubs are all completed before the end of April. Most of their games in April are at home.

Singing the Blue

Had some time on my hands this morning so I’ve compiled a shopping list for AF.
He says he’s going to shop at the top of the market (filet mignon) but might add lesser pieces if the deal is right (hamburger).

I’ve grouped these players by position and have only included guys that I have read (at least once) MIGHT be available. Doesn’t mean they will be and if they are it doesn’t mean Andrew will be high bidder or even interested.

Outfielders:
Robert Jr.
Arozarena
Pham
Rooker
Winker
Happ

Infielders:
Bichette
Hoerner
Paredes
Rengifo
McMahon
India
Donovan
Rodgers
Edman

Starters:
Skubal
Crochet
Eflin
Eovaldi
Snell
Flaherty
Fedde
Kikuchi
Bassitt
Gray (Jon)

Bullpen:
Miller
Erceg
Estevez
Finnegan
Yates
Scott
Puk
Fairbanks

Bear disclaimer:
Rockies owner doesn’t like to trade his favorite players
GM’s don’t like to trade within the division

david

Yes fake stat that Ohtani had most Extra base hits before Allstar game in Dodger history. But Dukes 1954 total was at halfway mark in fewer games

Singing the Blue

Something else for Andrew to consider as he talks to other teams is the players who are already, or will be this winter, eligible for the Rule 5. If he doesn’t plan to put them on the 40-man roster this winter, he should try to include them in a trade so he doesn’t run the risk of losing them for nothing.

Some of the better known:
Trey Sweeney
Austin Gauthier
Ben Casparius
Edgardo Henriquez
Ryan Ward
Drew Avans
Kody Hoese

There are currently 9 players on the IL, most of whom will probably be back with the team next year, so all in all, a lot of space is going to be needed.

Singing the Blue

Great to have you back and commenting, Jeff. Hope your cruise was terrific. Have you officially returned?

When is your surgery, and can you take your computer (or phone) into the operating room? With your commentary on the current (and future) team and Bear’s writings on the historic Dodgers, you’ve built a truly wonderful site here.

Your Biggio scenario makes perfect sense, but that doesn’t mean I have to like the way it played out.

Last edited 1 year ago by Singing the Blue
OhioDodger

What do you think we could get if we packaged Lux and Outman? Flaherty??

Last edited 1 year ago by OhioDodger
Therealten

Every Dodger swinging as hard as they can on every pitch. Seemingly

Bluto

I think I am starting to see what the Dodgers see in Vargas’ glove.

OhioDodger

Greinke, Hill, and Bauer.

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